Is [Kim Jong-un] really sincere [about denuclearization]? The South Koreans are saying it. Our president is saying that Kim is sincere. Our secretary of state, former CIA director, [Mike Pompeo] is telling us that Kim is sincere, so that gives us a lot of food for thought…or requires some checking of our assumptions about what really is driving Kim. For Kim, I think we have to remember that the iconography of the nuclear weapons program over the past seven years has included Kim front and center of that program. He’s touching the nuclear warhead. He’s talking earnestly with the nuclear scientists and the missile technicians. He’s at every ballistic missile test...That said, I think that we have to see what Kim is willing to give to build up his economy in the way that he says he wants to do. But I think we have to be very clear. Kim is not a businessman — Kim is someone, if we believe him, he is somebody who has completed a project that his grandfather started and his father nurtured over the past 60 years. So to give that away for a burger franchise or for American technology experts to go into North Korea, I think would be a misguided way of thinking about how to make policy. Because if that’s your assumption about North Korea then you’re going to have a set of policy outcomes that don’t necessarily comport with reality.