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[On renewable energy siting in the United States] In most state energy laws, they don't address [siting issues] at all. I get it, but I think if we ignore this, it's at our peril. And it could come back to bite us.

[On the land use needs of renewable energy in the United States] We think about decarbonization as something we can just do. When you start thinking about the land use issue, it may not be quite as easy as we want it to be. I don't want us to discount that.