In this episode of Intersections, Brookings Vice President of Foreign Policy Bruce Jones talks with Senior Fellow Jung Pak and Rubinstein Fellow Ryan Hass about Kim Jong-un’s strategic goals and the dynamics of the U.S., China, and South Korea as they press for denuclearization in North Korea.

Show notes: 

Beyond maximum pressure: A pathway to North Korean denuclearization

The new geopolitics

The case for continued American leadership in Asia

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With thanks to audio producer Gaston Reboredo, Chris McKenna, and Fred Dews for additional support.

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