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Children play at a newly built section of the U.S.-Mexico border wall at Sunland Park, U.S. opposite the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico November 18, 2016. Picture taken from the Mexico side of the U.S.-Mexico border. Picture taken November 18, 2016. REUTERS/Jose Luis Gonzalez - RC1262C82C30
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The true costs of Trump’s border wall (part 1)

Vanda Felbab-Brown and Fred Dews

President Donald Trump pledges to build a wall on the border between the U.S. and Mexico, claiming that it will stop criminals and drugs from entering the United States. Vanda Felbab-Brown, a senior fellow in the Center for 21st Century Security and Intelligence at Brookings and author of the new Brookings Essay, “The Wall: The real costs of a barrier between the United States and Mexico,” addresses these and other claims made about the border wall. This is part one of a two-part conversation about her essay and the wall.

Also: in another installment of Metro Lens, the Metropolitan Policy Program’s Joseph Parilla discusses why services exports (as opposed to goods exports) need to be a more central part of the Trump administration’s focus on its made in America agenda.

Show Notes

The true costs of Trump’s border wall (part 2)

The Wall: The real costs of a barrier between the United States and Mexico

On Trump’s Phoenix speech and the border wall

Export Monitor 2017

Thanks to audio producer Gaston Reboredo with assistance from Mark Hoelscher, and to producer Vanessa Sauter. Additional support comes from Jessica Pavone, Eric Abalahin, Rebecca Viser, and David Nassar.

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