In this episode of Intersections, Molly Reynolds, a fellow with Governance Studies, and Thomas Wright, fellow and director of the Project on International Order and Strategy, discuss President Obama’s successes and failures in public policy and what legacy he leaves behind.
Reynolds explains how political polarization affected perceptions of the president’s governance choices: “I think that a lot of the opposition or criticism that Obama received for doing what he did [through executive powers] is really just a reflection of the fact that over the course of his administration, public opinion on the president was very polarized by party. Democrats were very in favor of what Obama was doing, Republicans were generally very against him and so that very large, very persistent gap in how people saw what the president was doing and the degree to which they would say that they opposed things [were] merely because they were associated with the president.”
And Wright speaks on the way that the world changed under Obama’s presidency, and against his best efforts: “This is a president who wanted to remake America’s role in the world and the international order. He wanted to transition away from focusing on things that divided nations to tackling common challenges, whether that’s terrorism, nonproliferation or climate change. What happened in his second term—Russia invading Ukraine, annexing Crimea, the breakdown of regional order in the Middle East—this is a return to geopolitical competition, of major power competition, and he just resisted that frame, and every year it got immeasurably worse. And now we have not just the return of nationalism elsewhere, but here in America as well.”
With thanks to audio producer Gaston Reboredo and producer Vanessa Sauter, and also thanks for additional support from Kelly Russo, Fred Dews, and Richard Fawal.
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