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A customer conducts a mobile money transfer, known as M-Pesa, at a Safaricom agent stall in downtown Nairobi, Kenya October 16, 2018. REUTERS/Thomas Mukoya

Digital cash transfer infrastructure

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In this seventh interview of the “17 Rooms” podcast, Michael Faye and Minister Cina Lawson discuss building digital cash transfer infrastructure for emergency response and adaptive social protection. Faye, CEO and co-founder of GiveDirectly and Lawson, Minister of Digital Economy and Digital Transformation in Togo, moderated Room 1 focused on Sustainable Development Goal number 1—on no poverty—during the 2021 17 Rooms flagship process.

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“17 Rooms” is a podcast about actions, insights, and community for the Sustainable Development Goals and the people driving them. The podcast is co-hosted by John McArthur—senior fellow and director of the Center for Sustainable Development at The Brookings Institution, and Zia Khan—senior vice president for innovation at The Rockefeller Foundation.

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