Senior Fellows E.J. Dionne and Robert Kagan discuss America’s evolving but essential role in the liberal world order, the strength of democracy around the globe, and Kagan’s new book “The Jungle Grows Back.”
Also in this episode, Andre Perry describes some of the factors that affect black female candidates’ electoral success.
Thanks to audio producer Gaston Reboredo with assistance from Mark Hoelscher, and to producers Brennan Hoban and Chris McKenna. Additional support comes from Jessica Pavone, Eric Abalahin, Camilo Ramirez, Emily Horne, and our interns Tim Madden and Churon Bernier.
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