This week’s interview features part one of a conversation with Middle East expert Shadi Hamid, in which he talks about Islamists and democracy, especially in Egypt. He also talks about meeting Mohamed Morsi before he became Egypt’s first democratically-elected president, why the Muslim Brotherhood was cautious about attaining power, and why Islamists are willing, literally, to die for their cause. Part two of the conversation will appear in the next podcast. Also in this episode: a new segment focusing on what’s happening in Congress. Governance Studies Fellow John Hudak offers insight into House Speaker John Boehner’s proposed lawsuit against President Obama.