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What You Hear When You Bring a Recording Device Inside the NSA

This week, Lawfare Blog posted a series of podcasts with key National Security Agency staff interviewed by Benjamin Wittes and Robert Chesney. Called “Inside NSA: We Brought in a Recording Device So You Don’t Have To,” the five-part series includes interviews with NSA’s general counsel; its chief compliance officer; the head of its Technology Directorate; the lead official for relations with the private sector; and the executive director who is currently acting deputy director.

Here are the episodes, courtesy of Lawfare (click on the titles to get more information about the episode):


Episode #52: General Counsel Rajesh De


Episode #53: John DeLong, the agency’s director of compliance

Episode #54: Lonny Anderson, Chief of NSA’s Technology Directorate


Episode #55: Anne Neuberger, NSA’s private sector liaison



Episode #56: Fran Fleisch, Acting Deputy Director of the NSA

Be sure to visit Lawfare Blog for additional commentary and insight.

The series coincided this week with Federal District Court Judge Richard Leon’s ruling on Monday that the NSA’s telephony metadata collection program “infringes on ‘that degree of privacy’ that the founders enshrined in the Fourth Amendment,” prohibiting unreasonable searches and seizures. Lawfare blog contributors, including Paul Rosenzweig, Raffaela Wakeman, and Benjamin Wittes, have been examining the ruling and its implications.

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