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A Foreign Policy and John L. Thornton China Center Event

The North Korean Nuclear Crisis

North Korea, Nuclear Weapons


Event Summary

In the past few days, North Korea conducted a nuclear test in the mountains of Kilju, close to the Chinese border. While experts debate the size of the weapon, the detonation appears to have been more successful than North Korea’s previous nuclear test in 2006. The United Nations Security Council, notably with the support of both China and Russia, has unanimously condemned North Korea’s actions and is working on new sanctions against Kim Jong Il’s regime. What prompted Kim Jong Il, now in poor health and looking at issues of succession, to conduct a nuclear test now? With the Chinese-hosted Six Party Talks stalled, how should the United States respond?

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May 27, 2009 Length: 1:28:23

Event Information

When

Wednesday, May 27, 2009
2:30 PM to 4:00 PM

Where

Falk Auditorium
The Brookings Institution
1775 Massachusetts Ave., NW
Washington, DC
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Contact: Brookings Office of Communications

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Phone: 202.797.6105

On May 27, the Brookings Institution hosted a discussion on the North Korea nuclear crisis and its implications for the United States and the region. Panelists Richard Bush, senior fellow and director of the Center for Northeast Asian Policy Studies, Michael O’Hanlon, senior fellow and director of research for the 21st Century Defense Initiative, and Dennis Wilder, visiting fellow with the John L. Thornton China Center, provided their analyses of the evolving situation in North Korea. Carlos Pascual, vice president and director of Foreign Policy at Brookings, provided introductory remarks and moderated the discussion. After the program, panelists took audience questions.

Transcript

RICHARD BUSH:  Kim Jong II, himself, has based his rule on support of the military. I suspect, but cannot prove, that he sees the military as an important prop to his succession arrangement, and so testing the missiles and testing the nuclear device is an effective way of cultivating that military support. So, we have three factors at work: a desire to set the negotiating table; a need to test; and a need to secure Kim Jong II's succession. Of course, there have been serious diplomatic consequences from the provocations that North Korea's engaged in, but someone decided that these three factors together were powerful enough to justify the course of behavior we've seen in the last six months.

Now, in thinking about what United States and other interested parties can do, let me just sort of lay out a framework, and in doing so one has to sort of think about the three factors that I've mentioned. I suspect that how these different factors are weighted in the minds of North Korean decision makers influences how the United States and others should respond. And the international community faces, I think, two dilemmas -- on the one hand that there is the desire to punish North Korea to some extent to demonstrate that its provocations have consequences; on the other hand, this punishment is most effective if it is based on multilateral consensus. And some parties are less likely to go for tough sanctions and tough pressures than others. China is the most important case in point. The second dilemma is when will be the opportune time, when will be the most likely time to get a change in North Korea's policy behavior? Is it in the short term through a mix of carrots and sticks? Or is it in the long term once Kim Jong II passes from the scene?

My own view is that, with respect to the first dilemma, we should pursue whatever set of sanctions the multilateral traffic would bear. As far as the second dilemma is concerned, I'm not sure that we can achieve that much in the current environment. I think North Korea's made a decision that for the foreseeable future it will be base its security on keeping nuclear weapons, and so if we are going to get a change in that stance, that may have to wait until we have a new leadership in Pyongyang.

Participants

Introduction and Moderator

Carlos Pascual

Vice President and Director, Foreign Policy